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« on: July 21, 2009, 02:44:37 AM »

Just curious about the different systems people use to apply decals. I have always just used the warm water/praying they don't break apart. Then again, I haven't built a model car in quite some time.
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2009, 03:39:04 AM »

My method is below. However if you are worried about decals breaking apart before you get them to the car, I suggest that you clear coat the decals before you cut them, with Microscale Liquid Decal Film, Testors Glosscote, pretty much any clear coat you like. This will form a new clear top coat and prevent cracking or breaking apart, which can happen with older or poor quality decals.

As for applying, I cut the image and dip in water for about 20 seconds. I use cold water most times. I remove the decal with tweezers and set on a pepr towel. When the decal image will slide around on the backing paper (I use my finger to check this) , I move it over the model and slide it off the backing paper and on to the model, usually holding an edge with a finger while pulling the backing paper away with the tweezers. if the placement is not perfect, I add a few drops of water on top until i like it. Once I am happy with the placement, I remove excess water with the corner of a paper towel. sometimes I apply decal setting solutions, sometimes I do not - same for clear coating once completely dry.

I know others have different methods, my friend at work would let his decals sit in the water until the backing paper released and floated to the bottom of the tray, but where would all the glue be..? I figured in the water! He also used a brush to move and place the decals, he was mostly working with small HO (1/87) train decals.

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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2009, 04:31:57 AM »

My method is real similar to Jeff's, with one exception. I take a coffee can lid with a paper towel folded so it just fits in it. Then I run water until the towel is just past saturated. Lay the decal on there until it releases. I was putting the decals on a Crown Vic last night, one of the side panels had just come loose, and we got dispatched on an ems run. Was gone about 15 minutes, and the decal was fine. If you have any concerns about the decal, spray it with clear coat, Testor's decal bonder, or brush some MicroMark liquid decal film over it. It may help to keep old decals together (I've had some success with it in the past). It just makes it a little harder to get decal set onto the decal itself.

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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2009, 12:31:42 PM »

Sorry I'm late to reply, but my way is slightly different... I always wear latex or vinyl gloves so the decal wont ever get stuck to my hand. Warm or Cold water for 15 seconds, see if it budges. If it doesn't, another 15 seconds and it will by then, slide it off the paper backing with just a finger, then take hold of it with tweezers and simply place it wherever, then smooth it down to get rid of air bubbles or wrinkles with a cotton bud (Q-Tip to Americans).
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2009, 01:11:04 AM »

Decals have come a long way in the years I've been building models. My preferred method is to use a shallow glass rectangular bowl with about 1 inch of warm water. But first I check decal to determine if protective film is on entire page, or just around model. Next I use an Xacto Razor blade pen (always with new blades [a box of 100 cost around $15]) to trim the decal as close as possible to edges. This eliminates any future yellowing, a problem with white or light colored models. And who wants that unsightly raised film edge 1/4 inch from the decal that shows up in too many photographs?. Plus the newer decals have adhesive under all areas of the page, and do not use the film as the attaching agent (those old 1960s era airplane decals used this method).

Its a good idea to lay dry decal on model and check to see if it fits first. I always lay model on folded cloth for cushioning to have decaled surface facing up (let gravity help), and don't rush. Do one side at a time. I soak cut/trimmed decal in warm water from ten to twenty seconds (a usual time period, but some decals will slip in 5 seconds, and some not until a minute or more), then use pincher-tweezers to pick up decals. Prior to applying, I run some water with a brush on area where decal will sit (this helps slide and position decal). A wet Q-Tip helps to accurately position the decal. When happy with position, I carefully dab with a dry Q-Tip, or toilet paper folded into postage stamp dabber to remove excess water.

If door jams, gas cap, or fender seperation indentations intersect a decal, or longer graphic or stripe, I apply a thin coat of Microscale Micro Sol*** setting solution, and let it work for an hour. Use a wet Q-Tip if decal requires repositioning, and for pressing into afore mentioned indentations. Sometimes several applications are required, over a multi-day period may be needed. For door handles and protrusions, you may have to cut top surface with an Xacto point to allow decal to lie flat. If a bubble appears during the process, a gentle tap with a sharp pin (heat first near match or lighter head, as hot point will better cut through decal film. but not red hot). Larger bubbles may be pushed to edge with wet Q-Tip. If in middle of larger decal, use pin method, then dab area with Micro Sol (you may have to repeat), and then dab with dry Q-Tip.

***Be aware that ink on uncoated or garage manufactured decals may run after Micro Sol application (so check a decal first), and it will "bleed" the red out of plastic in taillights (at least in Gearbox models). The red is a pain to remove, but a trimmed Q-Tip with dilute Clorox will work (from experience).

When dry, trim decals at edge of headlight/tailinght bezel with a new Xacto blade, and remove excess. Carefully cut the decal with new Xacto blade over opening door jam, hood, or truck point. Use Q-Tip soaked in Micro sol to adhere newly cut edges to body.  reapply if needed. Then use water on a Q-Tip or folded TP to carefully dab decals to remove any excess solvent accumulations. Be careful not to move or damage decals.

I do not seal my models with clear coat. The coating may eventually interfere with bonds in the decal film. I've seen it also yellow film surface. And if you have detailed with silver, or flats, the clear may ruin the edges of the trim area, by re-liquifying the top surface of the brushed on paint.

I have used FUTURE Floor Wax to seal a model. Sounds foolish, but a blind six-toed trained Cat could apply it properly, and it seems to find its own even coating. Just have to let dry a week or two for a hard surface. And you can actually "buff" the wax surface, for a great shine. I have one car I coated by this method almost seven years ago, and it still holds a shine, and can be re-buffed to eliminate fingerprints from body acid (something you can't do with paints or clearcoat). And the decals look as they were applied yesterday.
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